Obviously allot of theories suggesting they were already dead, or died in the plane crash. In which case why did it matter if MiB got off the island? Who the hell was Jacob? I was hoping to get a Mr. Echo cameo............. My allergies really started bothering me when Sawyer and Juliette met at the candy machine....I also loved Jack saying "I'll see you in another life brotha.."
I have no idea what I just saw other than I actually cried more than twice. What a great experience, but I don't get it...
Okay, here's what I got out of it: They were not dead all along. What happened on the island really happened. Jack died, Hurley became the new Jacob, Ben became Hurley's sidekick, and the people on the plane got off alive. The death scene was them at some point in the "future" (I use quotation marks because as Jack's father said, "there is no now, here.") all getting together. They died when they died. Some went on to live (Hurley tells Ben "you were a great number two" etc), some had already died. The point is that they got together in the afterlife. I... hrm. I'm very conflicted about this ending. On some level, it's satisfying. But on another level, it doesn't feel appropriate? I feel like the thread of the island mythos was sort of dropped -- the smoke monster (and his FUCKING NAME), the restless ghosts which were the whispers, the Egyptian mythology that was out of place everywhere. It felt like the last 2/3rds kind of dropped the ball on what was unique about Lost, and turned it into a sort of generic heaven/afterlife thing. I guess the only way it could be explained is that it was a story. Not everything was wrapping together towards some kind of divine plan. Dharma, the Others, Jacob, Smokey, were just characters in the course of existence. I see what Michael Emerson meant when he said that fans might find the ending consternating. EDIT: And I found it really fucked how Jack's son didn't actually exist? That's just disturbing.
I'm reading a lot of that around, people thinking they all died in the plane crash. But that whole fucking ending essentially hammered it home that ONLY THE FLASH SIDEWAYS was the afterlife. Ben and Hurley's conversation, Jack and Christian's conversation, it was REALLY CLEAR.
Exactly, in the end, the Smoke Monster's name doesn't matter, the Egyptian imagery doesn't matter, all that really matters is this: Jack saved everyone, Hurley got to take care of everyone, and they all found peace and happiness after they died.
My initial Lost ending theory. The "sideways world" was everyone's combined personal heaven. Before the crash, each individual was flawed and "lost" in their world. They were alone, and each searching for something else, something more. They found it in the Island, or, the Island found them. Together, they found life, love, purpose. The Island was their resurrection; they were given a rebirth of sorts. Eventually, they all die. As Christian said, (paraphrasing to some degree) they were at their best together. They created this "sideways world" so they can be together again -- Jack with Kate, Sawyer with Juliet, Hurley with Libby, etc -- and be where they all belong; together. Also, like Christian said, (paraphrasing again) the "sideways world" has no right here/right now timeline. They all died at different times, yet manage to find their way to one another in the end. I could be way off, but that is what I got out if it. I, for one, loved the ending.
Yeah, I won't stand for any "died in the plane crash" nonsense. I think it was spelled out really well. Great finale episode. Gave smart folks a satisfying ending, while still leaving something to chew on. Dipshits, just like with The Sopranos, will be angry that it wasn't wrapped up in a neat little bow.
Well, it's just Jack's "perfect" life that he always wanted. I think. RE: Ben Ben didn't want to go into the church because he wanted to "live" happily for a bit longer. With Rousseau, Alex and company. He'll go in his own time.
Great, than why did it matter if MiB got off the island? Who was he? If that is the case then did we get an answer on the whole Jacob vs. MiB and who the hell they were thing? I think everyone got the whole sideways world thing but thanks FOR PUTTING IT IN ALL CAPS, but what about everything else? What was the light of the island, (I know it's the heart and would destroy is if not protected) but how did it change MiB to the smoke monster? I enjoyed the last episode but would have a liked a couple more things explained.
Absolutely. The live chat on the EW board is about 60/40 loved it/hated it. The island stuff all really happened. As Christian said, some people died before Jack, some long after. And sideways world was created by them so they could all meet up with the people who were there in the most important time in their lives. I thought it was brilliant. Now I just have to wait for the extra answers segment on the dvd in August.
MiB wanted to leave because that was his only drive in life anyway. If MiB left the island it would be 'evil' leaving the island and destroying the world (they heavily alluded to this occuring). Why? Because MiB landed in that energy-pool-thing and got overridden by the energy-stuff, and too much of a good thing made him evil. It sounds ridiculous but if you watch the twins episode again I think you'll get it. BTW: They "undid" the Island for a bit so MiB could be killed, then Jack went to "redo" the island and set everything up again as it was. Anyone else see that Jack was becoming Smokey in the energy-water? I could swear I saw blackness on his person in the final scenes there. edit: The island wasn't hell at all, it was real fucking life. Jesus.
It's not that it wasn't a good ending. I just feel like the stuff they were working towards was... dropped? I was prepared for some revelation about Smokey, the heart of the island, who Jacob/Smokey's mother was, or something. I was pretty much blindsided by the "welp, Smokey's killed. And now... we just fix the island and it's good!" In due time I will feel satisfied, I think, but not until I've read a bunch of essays and discussions about the ending and feel like I've "got it" down.
I still don't get it! What the hell did I just see? If Jack made Hurley the new protector? Then what does it matter that he died? Other than for us to watch him die? I'm really confused about the co mingling of the time lines? What was Flash Sideways World? Where everyone's soul was collecting after they died on the island? Was the Island real life all along and the sideways world purgatory? I don't get it! ahh!
I know its silly, but did anyone lol when they showed the rope, then Vincent? I actually was like "Did Vincent save Dez"? And yes, the Island stuff happened. The flash sideways was sort of a limbo like place before they all moved on to the "next thing, whatever that may be", and not necessarily all of them died on the island. Christian was very clear about that.
If you're not still watching TV, turn on Kimmel for the Finale special. 1. Don't go chasin waterfalls 2. Not all dogs go to heaven. Awesome.
This is an emperor has no clothes situation. You guys can attribute whatever "meaning" you want to that, but it was fucking awful. We go from "What are these numbers? What is this hatch?" to "Time traveling bunnies?" to "Who is that little kid that only some people can see sometimes?" to "Have you seen 'The Sixth Sense'? Because that is you Jack. You're dead." Incoherent.
What the fuck have you been watching? It matters that Jack died because he was the main fucking character of the series. Because Jack always wanted to fix things and Hurley always wanted to take care of people so they ENDED UP IN THE ROLES THEY WERE MEANT FOR. IT WAS A FUCKING EPILOGUE, AN AFTERWARD, JACK WASN'T GODDAMN DEAD THE WHOLE TIME.