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The Automotive Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Backroom, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. Revengeofthenerds

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    Yeah I never understood what the big deal was with John Deere until I owned my first one (a riding mower). Those things are fucking tanks. You have to really try to fuck one up. Now I have a gator UTV and it drives like a Baja buggy but hauls trailers and loads like its big brother tractors.

    Where possible, I'll always buy Deere now. And I'm that douchebag who wears a JD hat.
     
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    One of my favourite things to do as a race car instructor was to humble idiots that would show up to the track with their new 550 hp Porsche. I'd lap them driving an old BMW 325, and they were incredulous. "But my car is way faster than yours!?!?" "But you don't know how to drive it... want to learn?"

    Either they were humbled and learned, or they never came back.

    Even "good" drivers don't really know how to drive, but today's society seems to default to the "I know what I'm talking about and it's not that hard or complicated" head space, only later to come around to "oh... I didn't realize that".

    I honestly think every driver should spend a day on a skid pad and a track and learn how to do actual car control.... we'd have much safer roads because we'd have much better educated drivers.
     
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    Agreed. I know I'm a chick crashing a man-fest thread, but I've autocrossed a handful of times (the E36 still kicked my E46's ass) - I've grown up around cars, so while I dig navigation and Sirius, I can back out of a driveway without seventeen backup cameras, thank-you-very-much.

    I used to love to drive, so I'd never even think about texting, or even talking to a passenger. My guess is that better driving education still won't stop the non-stop distractions (that I'm guilty of, too. I drive a Hyundai mom car, so it's kind of ok)

    I lurk here every once in awhile, but should anyone need anything tool/equipment related (and some other fun stuff), I still have some awesome sources. I'll let you all get back to horsepower chat and probably still lurk every once in awhile...
     
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    Hey Nett, maybe you can help us out, what would you say are the top ten things that your average to above average driver does wrong...or not well enough?

    I'm not talking about the idiots who just can't drive, but for those of us who would like to become better drivers. As an instructor, what would you say?
     
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    I won't pretend to speak for Nett. But I would say a couple of the biggest things is over confidence in their driving abilities and not looking far enough ahead.

    Go take a racing course at a local track, and you'll see how woefully bad of a driver you are. Check your ego and go lose control of the car in a controlled environment.

    Becoming a better driver takes practice. You need to practice defensive driving skills frequently in order to be better at them.

    Learning how to avoid target fixation is a good skill. It's a really hard skill to learn or unlearn as humans are wired to target fixate because it usually meant life or death when a sabre-toothed tiger was attacking you. Here's a good video showing how it presents itself and some avoidance techniques . Most of the video's are of motorcyclists wearing helmet cams, but the principles are the same.

    Lastly slow down and drive at a reasonable speed. At 60mph you're travelling the length of a football field in just over 3 seconds. I would say most peoples reaction time is around 1 sec, by the time they see the hazard, determine they need to do something and then start moving the vehicle controls. If bambi gets in front of you at 100yards and at that speed you've already closed a 1/3rd of the distance before you've even starting making a correction.
     
  9. Nettdata

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    Yep, those are the two main ones, for sure, and I'd add a third which is how wrong the attitude of "I can handle screwy situations even though I've never practised them before" is.

    The number of people that get into a scary situation, emergency-stomp the brakes, and then freak out because they've never experienced the ABS shudder so let off, is unbelievably high. Emergency stopping, collision avoidance, are things that you need to be trained for and practise, you won't just "get it right" when it happens. Some reflexive behaviour is the opposite of what you need to do, so you have to re-learn your response. "Look where you go" is a prime example that most motorcyclists learn early on.

    Those are the main ones.

    The most important, in my opinion, is to give yourself more time to react to situations. That involves a mixture of becoming aware of situations faster, predicting what other drivers are going to do, and giving yourself time to react.

    • Be aware of your surroundings... the further away, the better, because the sooner you see things, the more time you have to react. If you're looking 300 yards ahead and see that there's a parked car, then you can react to that sooner. There's a reason people slam into parked cars or garbage/debris on the road... they weren't looking up. Don't stare at your hood ornament... expand your "knowledge zone" out as far as you can. It's hard, and it takes practice.
    • Take into account other driver's reactions. you can start to stop sooner, slower, and ensure that you don't get rear-ended by doing an emergency stop, or don't just rear-end the person ahead of you. Driving is a chain reaction... if you emergency stop, then the people behind you will have to, and they will have to, and so on and so on.
    • Learn to predict what other drivers may do and plan for that reaction. If you see a parked car in the middle of the road that is in front of the car you're following, then start to slow down, knowing that he's going to slow down soon. Or be aware of the dump truck that is riding your bumper and realize that he won't stop as fast as you, so pull over a bit and then stop. Or if you are going past an on-ramp and see a car that will merge soon, then move over and give them room before it's too late. Don't drive in people's blind spots because they will, eventually, merge into your hood. If someone's driving like an idiot, let them go so you get more space between you and them.
    • Don't keep a distance buffer around you, keep a time buffer. 50 feet at 20 mph is way more reaction time than 50 feet at 60 mph.

    And finally, learn car control. Cars at speed do not behave like they do in a parking lot. Just go watch people try and drive in the snow for the first time. Driving in the snow at slow speed is remarkably similar to driving in anger (racing) at high speeds. In a race, you always feel on the edge of control... like you're floating or skating around. In the rain, you want to make the car do something before it decides to do something on it's own... for instance, in a corner, you want to sometimes induce a skid and control it rather than try and turn and just have it happen unexpectedly.

    Those are some high points... but really, learning to drive can be a lifetime pursuit, and honestly our drivers licensing exams are a fucking joke.

    If you're really interested in driving, I can't recommend Speed Secrets enough...

    https://speedsecrets.com/

    It's written by Ross Bentley, a long-time friend and teammate of mine. It goes into more details.

    Likewise, Going Faster! is a great introduction to the science behind driving fast and surviving.

    https://www.amazon.ca/Going-Faster-Mastering-Driving-Barber/dp/0837602262
     
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    What a fucking night.

    I'm in the process of selling my Jeep before my move, and I need to get it re-registered in BC (it's currently registered in Ontario).

    I went through all the paperwork and I have a safety inspection tomorrow at noon... all good.

    I was just sitting down to a nice dinner tonight when I remembered... I need to install a third brake light. When I put on my swing-gate spare tire holder 5 years ago, the factory original hit the garbage, and I always thought, "yeah, I'll get around to fabbing up a new one at some point." I drove the thing for years without fixing it, and yet tonight I realized that in order to pass the safety inspection tomorrow, I need to have it in place.

    Tonight was a flurry of finding brake wires under caked on mud, finding them to be too short to work with, splicing in new ones, finding a shitty red brake light (none with any enclosures), bending some metal bars, drilling/tapping the tire gate, etc., etc. All in the driveway, in the snow/rain, at a degree above freezing.

    The only down side was I didn't have time to make a nice enclosure for the light, so I just made a wooden block and routed out space for the light... then spray painted it all black. It looks almost professional from the splice job under the rear wheel well up to the light enclosure, and at that point it looks pure fucking ghetto. It's not even level. Oh well... it works, and it should get me through the inspection... that's all I give a shit about.

    Then I was running the Jeep a bit, and it died. Turns out the battery that's been sitting for a year is fucked... go figure. Then I put in a new one I had lying around, and then it threw an engine code for the alternator field.

    So it looks like I may need a new alternator. Hopefully it's not the regulator, because that's handled by the PCM on this Jeep... and I've already swapped it out once. They are fucking hard to find.

    Hopefully that doesn't screw up my safety, and they can throw a charging system tester on things to help me figure out what's going on.

    It's never fucking easy, is it?

    Now it's time for a couple of shower beers.
     
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    You've GOTTA post some pictures of that...

    Anyway, in other news, I'm planning to swap the engine in an '07 Mercury Grand Marquis; I'm going to take out the factory 4.6L V8, and put in a 5.4 out of a 2000 F150.
    That requires intake spacers, because the 5.4L truck manifold won't fit under the factory hood, and the 5.4 has a taller deck-height, which makes the engine wider.

    The only game in town right now is aluminum spacers from Professional Products (made in China...). I got them in last night, and I bolted them onto the cylinder heads, and the intake manifold. The fit is less than ideal, and they will require a lot of hand-blending with a die-grinder and some carbide burrs, but I guess I can make them work. I mean, what choice do I have?

    Here are the spacers bolted to the heads (with Fel-Pro intake gasket installed.) for three of the cylinders; one picture didn't load:
    Intake spacer - Cylinder head side 1.jpg Intake spacer - Cylinder head side 2.jpg Intake spacer - Cylinder head side 3.jpg

    Here are the spacers bolted onto a PI intake manifold. It's worth noting that these things don't have any dowel pins to keep them in place, so you could potentially get the fitment off by a mile. (But the factory intake didn't have dowel pins, either.)
    Intake spacer - manifold side 1.jpg

    Intake spacer - manifold side 2.jpg Intake spacer - manifold side 3.jpg Intake spacer - manifold side 4.jpg

    If you want to know all about swapping a 5.4 into a Panther Ford/Mercury, read this thread:
    http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1790510#Post1790510
     
  12. Nettdata

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    I have oversized off-road tires on the Jeep, and have a big swing-gate that is also a Class 5 receiver and bumper. (Very cool setup by SmittyBuilt, who I highly recommend... great build quality). Anyway, in order to get the light visible over the rear spare, an extension had to be built. It looks goofy, but it works.


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    The inspector laughed, but it passed.
     
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    The day after I fabbed it up, I laughed and wondered why I didn't just attach it to the safari rack instead. Oh well... it won't be mine for much longer anyway.
     
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    Lights mounted and floor painted... now I get to wait for a few days for everything to cure.

    Should take a bit due to the snow and rain, but I hope it'll happen eventually.

    I was thinking about getting it spray-foamed before the trip, but the cheapest quote I got was $1,800. That can wait.

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    Just finished roughing in all the electrics for the trailer. Shore power, battery power, auto-switched power, heater on a thermostat, breaker control of all the major "sub-systems" for when amps are at a premium... all sorts of good stuff.

    It's still messy, but it works. So now it's time for drinks in the hot tub.

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    Just one small point of pride... I wired and buttoned it all up, and everything, I mean EVERYTHING worked perfectly as expected the first time. No sparks, no drama... just 100% functionality. I think that's the first time ever that's happened.
     
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    In case you're wondering what all that is, here's a pic with a description of the pieces-parts:

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    Looks great! Any reason you didn't get an inverter that had the AC transfer switch, and float charger built in? It would have made the wiring easier and probably saved some space.
     
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    Cost. I had the switch and charger already and the inverter was on sale for just under $200.
     
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    And in the continuing saga of the trailer... today was all new brakes and rotors and hubs and rims and tires oh my. It was fucking cold work, but at least it's done.

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  20. Revengeofthenerds

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    You gotta put dual racing stripes down the centerline of that trailer with some extra JD green. It just seems fitting.