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Discussion in 'Pop Culture Board' started by hawt, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. Fernanthonies

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    I will say, as a very big Star Trek fan, STO was boring. Not only am I a Star Trek fan, but a I played World of Warcraft for years, so there you go. I wanted to keep playing, because I really liked how they had the progression set up. You ranked up from lt. commander to admiral and got bigger and better ships to go along with your rank, as well as higher ranked bridge officers. It was a cool concept, but in the end, the gameplay was boring. That's my opinion though.
     
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    Skyrim has a major patch rolling out on PC - it'll take a while longer for the consoles due to MS and Sony's validation process

    <a class="postlink" href="http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1337259-steam-beta-1415-release-notes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/133725 ... ase-notes/</a>
     
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    Got a spare beta key for Path of Exile, a Diablo type game that is pretty fun and different if anyone is interested. Basically want to trade for access to someone's Diablo 3 beta before I stab my fucking eyes out for not getting in yet. Seriously, someone help me out here.
     
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    Played the demo for Asura's Wrath. Its fucking over the top fun. I don't even know how to describe it, but you should play it. Frantic game, weird combination of third person shooter and God of War. Made by Capcom.
     
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    Have any of you fools played the demo for this yet? Seriously.

    It takes Skyrim, adds some fucking color, the story and writing of R.A. Salvatore (10,000 years worth of game history), character animations so it doesn't look like you're all talking to robots, voice acting from non-retards, and tosses in the combat of a God of War/Bayonetta (see: actually fun) and tells you to go forth and explore.
     
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    Any other hyperbole?

    But if the combat is God of War clone, I somehow doubt it addresses the same target audience as Skyrim.
    Will wait to see how the depth actually comes across in game.
     
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    I have WAY more hyperbole. Its not completely GoW, its has a touch of Fable in there also. It is an Action RPG, except you can block and dodge, and its fun. I've seen videos of Skyrim combat, holy fuck that shit is boring.
     
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    THat was kind of what I was getting at - I really enjoy sneaking around and sniping people from afar in Skyrim, while I was never a huge fan of GoW or similar - and most of my skyrim experience is based on how vast and deep the world is - I'm not sure I'd find the same in KoA:tR
     
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    Well there is this running review of the game.

    And sir, please, trust me. This game allows you to be an Assassin/Mage Hyrbid with Daggers AND Bow. Get the demo (available on PC also) and play it. It isn't a GoW clone. Take Skyrim, mix it with God of War and Dragon Age (probably) and voila! You have The Reckoning.
     
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    No probably about the Dragon Age. I'd say the game is 60% Dragon Age II, 20% Slasher-game (God of War is just one example), and 20% Elder Scrolls. The demo hasn't been bad so far, but I don't think it is one I'll run out and buy immediately.
     
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    If anyone is trying get a team together for some ranked league of legends I'd be down. Just played my first few ranked games and it's crazy how much more under control it feels. Generally people don't do totally retarded shit, and if they do, they do it less frequently than normals. Awwwsnap13 is my name on there
     
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    Kingdoms of Amalur, I really really want to buy this game, mostly because the story line is written by R.A. Salvatore. But I am so sick and tired of EA doing really fucking dumb shit. Take this game for example, there will be no used game market. Just because they are greedy mother fuckers, who want to suck every fucking dollar they can out of you. They are making it so that you need a "online pass" to get some quests.

    http://hothardware.com/News/Outrage...ontent-Lock-Brings-Studio-Head-Out-To-Debate/

    And they fucking wonder why people pirate there games? It is shit like this is precisely why people do it.
     
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    How long were you going to wait for the game? Unless you have a bunch of Game Stop dollars or wait a few months the most you were going to save was $6. And seriously though, the game has a million fucking quests. You won't miss those few. In the demo on the way to a storyline quest you run into 5 side-quests. They weren't hidden or out of the way, they're just there.

    EA (nor anyone else) makes videogames for shits and giggles. They make video games for money, just like you and I go to work. The game developers who made this great game with a boatload of content should get paid for it. Honestly, fuck Game Stop, fuck them to hell and back. When games sell, developers give more time to new ideas and new game styles. When they're worried about not selling games because people will wait for them or not buy them directly, we get recycled ideas that were popular before.

    If you're that big on saving games, just wait for Target or Best Buy to have a buy 2 get 1 free sale. They have them every 3-6 months.
     
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    Ah, used vs. new. This was a big debate on Twitter last night after one of the Penny Arcade guys threw it out there and watched the carnage.

    Here is my thinking: I won't buy used games. I don't trust them for even a minute. I've bought two used games in my life, and both were pieces of shit. "Guaranteed to work" by GameStop is bullshit.

    That said, I will absolutely trade in my old games that I never play anymore. Why the fuck not? It is just going to sit on my shelf and collect dust and take up room. Just today I cleared a shelf worth of space off my DVD rack, and I'm taking those games (a combination of PS3 and Wii games) into Best Buy to trade them in towards Final Fantasy XIII-2 (and only because they offered an extra 40% in trade-in value towards that particular game this week). I have no problem trading in old games I will never, ever play again. There is no reason for me to keep them.

    Am I a hypocrite? Probably. But it is all a moot point anyway, and I'll tell you why:

    Next Gen systems will be focused on digital downloads of games. The PS4 and the Xbox 720 will end up with huge hard drives to encourage gamers to download games rather than buy disc based copies. In fact, Microsoft and Sony would be stupid NOT to do this. They'll basically be Steam consoles. Now, if they were smarter than that, they'd offer the digital downloads at a discounted price, to encourage people to buy the digital copy, over buying a disc based copy. Why the fuck is a new game $60 to download on PSN, and $60 to buy the disc? I'll buy the disc, because I know I can resell that later and make some of that money back, even if it is only $5 or $10. It is still cheaper than the digital copy. Just sell the digital copy for $50 and the disc copy for $60 and I'll buy the digital copy every time.

    Unfortunately, I don't think they're that smart, though. They'll just phase out discs. Disc based games will still exist for a few more years, but ultimately, they're going to do away with discs for games, and everything will be digital downloads. When you walk down the video game aisle at the retail stores, they'll be selling redemption codes for games instead of discs for games. Kids will be getting cards with video game redemption codes in them. That way, they keep the retailers in on the action. Once that happens, though, GameStop will get a few years as a vintage video game store, but otherwise they'll be pretty fucked. I honestly don't expect GameStop to be in business 10 years from now.
     
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    I've traded back games too, the old school in me just wished I knew more people I could loan games to and say "here play this." But that's difficult, because everyone I know doesn't have the time and always wants to play the newer version. I also just hate GameStop. Its not that I'm against buying used games, it is just the rage against the machine in this sense is always over the top. The companies want to make money, and you're trying to save money, but they're going to win. D26 is 100% correct with the way shit is going to go, every game company wants GameStop gone.
     
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    I don't claim to know whether this particular chunk of online content will stop the used game market, but there is a push from the video game industry to try and put a complete kibosh on used games. Along with the DRM that titles seem to be increasingly infested with, are you really okay with this?

    I'm not. I'm friggin' sick of the DRM that comes with these games. I'm equally tired of the publishers for all kinds of media (interactive and not) trying to lock down what I am and am not allowed to with what I purchase. If I'm just renting the shit, fine, but lower the price accordingly.

    The biggest handcuffs on the industry right now, IMO, is the focus to put all of the stellar graphics in every single game. All the time spent on special effects just explodes the budget and development time for a game. There's a lot to be said for a game that's high quality and immersive without, you know, particle explosions or individual hair strands or whatever.
     
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    I'm against the DRM that requires constant internet connection because it sucks because you can't play a game if your internet that goes out. But the online pass and extra content strategy I don't think is a huge crisis. If a game comes out in January, someone sells it back in February, Its sold for 54.99. 6 dollars? Really?

    They're not telling you what you can do with the media. If you buy it, you can sell it. If you're trying to buy it used, well you have to pay a little more for being late to the game. It's just a trade off. I think its fair.
     
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    So what you are saying is that if i buy a used book, i will have to pay extra for say chapter 5. All because i didn't buy it new? That is fucking bull shit. The entertainment industry is the only one that is trying to fuck over there customers like this. They want to have it both ways. When you buy a game they aren't selling you a game they are selling you a license for the game, so you think that you would be able to go and get a new disk if your broke, good luck with that.
     
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    I guess my overarching point wasn't about this particular piece of online content since I don't know its reach. There is a general attempt by the industry to completely do away with the used market. Microsoft is/was looking at "write once" sections of a disc that would be written the first time they're played, preventing you from selling it. Some distributors are pushing more and more major sections of the game as DLC (case in point, the latest Batman game. Catwoman, an entire character and chunk of the storyline, was DLC, and sections of the game could not be completed without her).

    I disagree with the concept as a whole.

    If I can get it online - thus completely bypassing the idea of reselling - great, reduce the price a little and everything else is convenience for me. It's a deliberate choice. If I buy a disc, though, the expectation is that I own the media and have some flexibility with it.
     
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    Wait, so if you bought the game brand new, you didn't get Catwoman and couldn't beat the game? Or if you bought the game used, you had to "buy" the Catwoman DLC? Let's not confuse DLC with "Online Passes" or things that do come with first time purchases.

    Also DRM is mostly to prevent piracy, which is possible. That shit is rampant. I pirated Mass Effect 1 and 2, and will 3.

    And wexton, with that used book argument, I'm not disagreeing with you there entirely. With the exception of Madden, most of these games aren't disabling anything like online play, they're just saying "You don't get this gun, sword or costume/skin" and most of that stuff is useless by the time you get a 25% through the game anyway. In the case of The Reckoning, how far into the game will you be using that weapon? I doubt you'll be using it until the last boss.

    All I'm saying, if you want the game, buy the game. If you want to wait, cool, wait for the game. The price will naturally drop $10-$20 in 6 months for a new copy. How much are you looking to save? Most popular games have been holding on to prices longer than usual (Looking at you AC: Brotherhood) and GameStop will only save you $10 max unless you're trading games in (by the way, you'll make way more money on Amazon). Amazon has deals, Best Buy and Target has deals on new games. Not that big of a deal. If it really is a problem, protest with your wallet and not buy it, only way its going to change if people say "Fuck you, you're not getting our money."