They don't need to retroactively make whole games exclusive just dlc content and extras or maybe release dates exclusivity (though Im not sure if this is a thing anymore). 3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past. Now you really can't do that developers can sell 2 million all at once or 1.2-1.5 by waiting to port. It's all moved to extra and DLC content. Sony's really beefed the whole exclusivity thing. Metal Gear Solid is a good example. It used to be almost totally a Sony exclusives. Nintendo got a remake of the first one and that was it for a while. Then for a while Sony had a 6 month exclusivity before it was port to Xbox. Now I don't think there is anything. Sony also blew it the same way with GTA basically the exact same story as MGS. Now M$ get exclusive content way before Sony on this too.
How about a 17 second video? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2b_1371011276 These people are out of their fucking minds.
Even Penny Arcade agrees. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/2013/06/12/aftermath" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.penny-arcade.com/2013/06/12/aftermath</a>
On one hand, I feel compelled to support Sony because they are not following Microsoft's nonsense, but I’m a little bothered by having to pay for multiplayer this generation because I sometimes go a month or two without using it. I get that PS Plus currently offers games, but PS4 isn’t backwards compatible, so I’m unclear about what we’re getting. Are they overhauling the online infrastructure? Is there a guarantee that PSN won’t go down?
PSN costs (if I remember correctly) around $70 for the year. They offer free games and exclusive content worth several hundred. No problem.
No its $50. And there are quite a few perks like full hour trials of AAA titles. I have noticed demos have gotten sparse for the bigger games, or come out like 3-6 months after the game is released. No idea how this makes sense.
After Halo 4, even Halo couldn't get me to buy that piece of shit. And I've been a Halo fan for over ten years now. Destiny is the new hotness. I'll be getting a PS4 and PS+ whenever Bungie decides to release it.
<a class="postlink" href="http://pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB</a> Dunno if this is real, but if so then Microsoft is clearly just trying to protect us simpleminded, disc losing and scratching, hiveminded folk from ourselves. Awful sweet of them.
I think I might be the only person on the internet that's still probably buying an XOne. Why? 1. I live in a metro area with internet that's up 99.9% of the time. And even if it goes down, the size of the check in file is so small, I can connect it to my phone and authenticate that way. 2. The ability to share my games with family members and play my own games at their house without having to lug a backpack full of disks is important to me. The possibility that my brother and I can play a game together with one of us buying it seems pretty awesome. 3. I don't care if my XOne stops working 15 years from now, because I'll probably either have a new console, or, have a kid by then and have no time for games anyway. 4. The new Kinect looks pretty sweet. 5. So do the live TV features. 6. The exclusives look rad too. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. I'm in the silent majority of gamers that has a fully functional internet connection with disposable income. It seems hilariously ironic that the same people that are complaining about authentication are doing via the internet.
I highly doubt hundreds of dollars of PS4 content will be available for free at launch. There might be some demos, but for the most part we will be paying to use our own internet connections for peer to peer multiplayer...which sucks. I prefer to be offline when I’m not playing multiplayer because the frequent friends list notifications are distracting and annoying. The internet backlash is more about the principle. Consumers are being forced to accept heavy restrictions that have never existed in console gaming. Furthermore, these restrictions do not provide the user with any benefit. I’m sure that you are not alone in being indifferent to these factors, but a game console should be able to play games without any ifs, or buts.
Are you fucking kidding me? You know you can turn those off, right? The idea that someone would disconnect a cable or disable their wireless just to avoid notifications seems absurd. Nobody is pointing a gun at the head of John Q. Gamer and saying "BUY ME OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!" The fact that people think video game consoles are in any way different from any other piece of consumer electronic is laughable at best. Do you remember having to transfer music to your music player? You know what you can do now? Use your data connection to stream your music library to your phone. Having an internet connection required for a console means that I don't have to spend 20 minutes downloading patch after patch and have my console automatically updated while it's in standby. Or even downloading games from their store while I'm watching TV through my console. Seems beneficial to me.
The whole DRM connection rage is absurd. First of all, GameStop is only really saving you $6 per games for most AAA titles retail. You can usually still get brand new games much cheaper off Amazon, or just wait for a Best Buy/Target buy 2 get 1 free sale. Best Buy has been ramping these up recently. Also, everyone is who is complaining has the internet flowing anyway. A lot of the people complaining are the nerdiest of the nerdy and have probably had an 8 hour WoW session where their connection didn't go to shit at least once. Its a silly point. Principle my ass, you're going to be playing your games and not notice any difference. Shit is going to change whether you like it or not. Oh and the way Sony is talking, PS+ will have quite a bit of shit ready for launch day. They may not be full blown triple A titles, but they will have a lot of Indie stuff ready to go.
I don’t go as far as disabling wireless. My ps3 doesn’t log in unless I tell it to. Instead of toggling notifications on and off all the time I just don’t connect when I don’t need them. I have no reason to log in unless I want to play multiplayer. Did you not list exclusives as something drawing you to xbox? Missing out on those is the consequence, or ‘gun to the head’, of not buying the new machine. In your example, an internet connection can benefit the music player, but the music player can still function indefinitely without one. I’ll give you patches, but those are infrequent and vary in size. As for downloading games and watching tv, we can already do that. My internet is reliable and the inconvenience of xbox would be minor, but why put up with it if the ps4 is cheaper and doesn’t have these restrictions?
Dude, all people are saying is that the fact Microsoft will not let you play single player games offline is stupid and is pushing them towards Sony.
Personally I think the whole game sharing thing is the most confusing and egregious thing M$ is pulling. While they might have had a chance to market it as just the next step to all digital media they bungled it bad with odd rules and restrictions that you don't see in other media sharing formats (music, Netlifx, etc). I know Ive heard Netflix wants to limit the number of people that can use one account but as of now I use my mom's account on my PS3, my little brother uses it on his in a different city, she uses it at her boyfriends out in bumfuck. Please explain how some of these weird hoops, like having to be friends for 30 days on Xbox Live to share stuff, benefits the consumer?
It doesn't at all, 2 of my buddies back home have been diehard xbox since the beginning, they have already told me they are switching to Sony. The convoluted sharing rules and offline restrictions is what they both said did it for them.
Life has consequences. If you don't want to buy a console you hate for a game that you want to play, that's life. I wanted to play Mario and Zelda on the Nintendo 64 but I couldn't justify spending $200 on a console on what was essentially two games, so I didn't. It's called making decisions and being an adult. As to my example, sure the music player can play indefinitely, but with the requirement of having an internet connection for a period of less than second nowadays being so inconsequential, why not go with something that'll give me more functionality and value with no work on my part? The only time I won't have internet access is either a massive fuckup on Comcast's part or weather. And even if my Comcast is down, I can just as easily turn my phone into a hotspot and connect my console to it. Is it extra work? Sure. But I'm willing to do that if it means that I can do all the other Internet required capabilities the XOne can do when my internet comes up. I have had broadband internet available to me since I was 19 years old, in two states. I'm 30 now. In all that time, the only time I didn't have internet was when I was moving from apartment to apartment and never more than 24 hours. They probably don't even have it nailed down yet. I think it basically boils down to, share your games with whomever is on your friends list that's been on there for more than a month, up to 10 people. The more than a month thing I can understand, just so you can't just randomly friend someone and give games away. Anybody that has ever used iTunes knows that you can only activate up to 5 times before you have to deactivate an old computer. I'm sure Netflix is going to put the kibosh on multiple logins too.
You know what I like to do when moving into a new place while waiting for the internet to get set up? Play single player games.
And what about the guys that deploy? If I had to have my PS3 online once a day, I would not be able to use it here. Even the $90/month hardline internet connection I'm paying for here comes nowhere near the speeds they say are required for this check-in bullshit. I guess no more new titles for Soldiers/Sailors/Marines (you know Air Force pansies have Stateside Cable speeds somehow, even over here).
THis may seem callous and is totally bad PR were Microsoft to say it. BUT. There are approximately 1.4 million deployed soldiers across all branches. Let's say 1 in 5 have their own console (probably too high). Then split that between the 360 and PS3. We're at 140,000 devices. There have been 67.2 million XBox 360s sold. Even if you assume that 20% of those are replacement/repeats (which is an absurd assumption, it's likely more like 5%), that's 50 million people who own a 360. If you think they're going to change their policies for a quarter of a percent of their market, that's some wishful thinking.