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Discussion in 'Pop Culture Board' started by hawt, Oct 19, 2009.

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    My one issue with that: going away from Wrath it was supposed to be less about burst and more about CC. Healers are pretty much worthless out there unless you're surrounded by two teammates at all time. If it's 1v1 the healer will die every single time. So getting back to burst damage, you shouldn't be able to pop 3 instants in a row and only dealing with a GCD, you're going to rape any DPS/heal and if they have a healer behind them, there is no way that they can keep up because the HPS is much lower than DPS right now, especially on single target heals.

    That being said, I would love to take advantage of having a frost mage on my 3's team. If you have to go against them, you gotta do it yourself too.

    I will agree with you though. Positioning and knowing the situations is in PVP is everything. I'm still fairly new to PVP (although I am generally in the top 5 in honor on my side every match) but I'm still pretty green when it comes to being in the right spot and assessing the situation. I hit myself after getting owned by a warlock because I didn't fear that stupid minion of his off the start.
     
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    Well that's where using cooldowns and CC at the right times come into play. Back in BC, you pretty much had to run someone OOM or get a good 20 seconds of CC on the healer AFTER all the CDs have been used. Wrath changed the margin for error quite a bit, but it still wasn't too bad once you got the hang of it. Of course if a mage is just standing there turretting the crap out of you without being stopped he's going to wreck some shit, but that's when being in the proper position with regards to the other team and your teammates is going to help you escape behind a pillar, or force him to either get into a position he's uncomfortable with or stop the onslaught for a bit.

    That said, I haven't played since August and don't have any plans to pick it back up since I'm busy as hell with school, but if I did it would pretty much be for PvP.
     
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    I honestly want to red dot you for this. Do you know how long Druids have been shit? Since the game started until now. Let us Druids have one damaging ability for the first time EVER. I play only Druid and have since the beginning so reading this makes me go nuts. I just cannot believe it. Druids can't 1v1 for anything and now it looks like we have a chance. About god-damn-time.

    In other news, I just got Assassin's Creed II for PS3, I'm a little late. Final Fantasy XIII is on it's way also. Thank you Amazon Gift Card. Got both for like 24 and 29 respectively. Can't wait.
     
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    Fuck druids.

    Hah! Just messing with you. In all seriousness though, I really did enjoy FF13 even though a lot of people bashed it for being so damned linear. It did get to me a little bit at times, but the game looks great and I enjoyed the story well enough. The combat system was a lot of fun to me as well. I still keep telling myself that I am going to go back and do all of the additional monster hunter stuff, but we'll see if that ever happens.
     
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    What you mean is "Do you know how long FERAL druid have been shit?"

    Feral was pretty solid early in wotlk (in fact, I played it during season 5 since resto was godawful at that point due to the awesome DK mechanics). The problem with feral was always lack of combo points and positioning. Having to keep up 3 bleeds, mangle and savage roar was a bitch. Then again, 10k ferocious bite crits on clothies were pretty fun.

    Resto has pretty much always been good though so to generalize druids as being bad is kind of silly.
     
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    Are you kidding? Feral druids were pretty damn good in Wrath for tanking and from what I remember kitties were pretty ridiculous in BC. Balanced druids were also insane in later Wrath. Do you know how much a Boomy raped (especially when hitting an eclipse)? Hell, my cousin has been playing balanced for a long time and he always topped charts in DPS and could take on 2 or 3 at a time in BGs. Don't give me that shit that Druids have been bad. I'll give you that cats were bad in Wrath, but they always haven't been shit. Each class goes through cycles and I was simply pointing out that feral druids are OP right now (and I stand by that 15-20k per tick is pretty ridiculous).

    What professions are you guys working on? Things are ridiculously expensive right now. If you have a gathering profession you have probably made a good 25k so far. If you don't, you either haven't leveled or have spent a lot of money. I'm leveling an alt right now for the sole reason of having two gathering professions.
     
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    I think he was referring to arena PvP, not DPS in raids or BGs. Hell, anyone with half a brain can take on 2 or 3 or 8 of the retards you find in BGs.

    As far as druid PvP, it's pretty much been Resto>>>>>Feral>Boomkin since BC (with the exception of season 5 when Feral was tops simply due to resto being made utter shit by game mechanics at the time).
     
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    I was actually speaking PvP/Arena, but specifically Cat Form. Bear Form is still near the bottom of the tanking tiers. And you're telling me a Boomkin can beat Frost Mage or any of the Warlock builds 1v1? Not a chance in hell.
     
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    Boomkin can't right now because Frost Mage is ridiculously OP and Warlock is too (not nearly as much as FM) with their CC abilities. Not many specs can, especially against FM. However, Boomkin demolished both of those at the end of Wrath before 4.0.1. I know because I watched it happen over and over again. Maybe the Boomy players I saw were just really good but they always were pretty high up in the ranks.

    EDIT: For example, I see a FM or Lock right now, I run. Being a Holy Pally, I have absolutely zero defense against the amount of CC both of those have. CC is the name of the game in Cataclysm, and the classes with the most CC and offensive dispells seem to be doing the best.

    I'm also thinking about switching to Prot for our guild since we're short a tank, and since healing is a bitch right now it may be worth it. Plus, it seems like Prot Pally tanks can be pretty useful in self healing during bosses to help the healer not run OOM so quick (Seal of Insight, Judgement, and Word of Glory). You guys ever tank? If so, what are the biggest challenges with it?
     
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    That's easy. 7 million DPS players who either never ran Burning Crusade dungeons, or used the length of WotLK to forget every lesson they'd ever learned about CC and pull discipline. No, it's not ALL on them. Healers can also learn to prioritize better, and tanks can definitely learn to mark correctly and pop cooldowns *as needed*. And everyone can learn to look through their spellbook for that stun/interrupt spell they've never had to use before.

    These new heroic 5-mans are basically miniature raids, in their trash/boss mechanics and sheer damage numbers. Be humble when you enter, or you will be when you leave.
     
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    I splurged with some advanced Christmas money and bought Fallout New Vegas. Very cool. I'm not sure why everyone says it's buggy - I haven't had it bomb out on me once (running it on my Core i5 650 @ 3.2 gHz, 4 gigs DDR3 1333, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit o/s, Geforce 9500GT graphics card). I'm finding it much more difficult than Fallout 3 in places, due to some fundamental differences in the two games:

    1) Speech checks - Fallout 3 would give you a percentage chance of success OR you could get around the speech check through one of your perks (scoundrel, lady killer, whatever). Fallout NV does NOT do this - you have to have amassed a certain number of skill points to be able to pass a speech check. You will ALWAYS fail if you don't have the required points. This sucks hard at the beginning of the game, since every quest requires a minimum speech check to complete.

    2) You get much less points to level up with between each level with NV than 3.

    3) You can only select a perk every second level in NV, not every level like 3, making the entire game much more difficult. Also, again, there's no perks that allow you to get around speech checks - no Scoundrel, Lady Killer, Strength, etc.)

    4) Much greater XP is rewarded for killing creatures and people in NV than was awarded in 3. However, you still need quite a lot of game time to level up your character.

    5) Customisable weapons in NV. HOORAY. Wanna put a laser sight and extended mags on your 10mm pistol? Wanna turn Fat Man into a Little Boy? You got it! There's also different ammo too - you can get hollow points, armour piercing, beanbag rounds and solid shot for shotguns, etc.

    6) Repair skill has been altered - you can always fix a weapon up to 100% condition if you have enough parts, which you couldn't do in Fallout 3 unless you had 100 Repair skill. All Repair now does is enables you to stretch your repairs further based on level.

    On the whole, New Vegas looks good and gameplay is a blast. I'd give it a solid 8 out of 10. I'd give it 9, but, honestly, Wayne Newton's voice gets grating and Country music isn't my favourite.
     
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    Anyone play in the Shadowburn Battlegroup? What's the PVP like there?
     
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    All the BGs will pretty much be the same until you get to the top 3-5 percentile
     
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    Steam was having this weird "Treasure Hunt" thing over the past two weeks where they got people to buy games for a decent price and do weird tasks in order to win 100 free games, today is the last day of the hunt where all you have to do is log in.

    I can tell already that they're gearing up for some huge sales right now, there are those developer packs that run around $60, there's also over 1000 games in the "under $10 bin" and over 500 in the "under $5" bin.

    Steam around Christmas is a fucking steal. I say it every year.

    I'm debating and waiting to see if this is gonna be a more than one day event. I might give in and get . . . something, I'm not sure. There's a whole lot of cheap and sale.

    *As I was reviewing this, they just updated the home page. The sale is from Dec 20th - Jan 2nd.
     
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    So the Horde always being good and always having to play with retards on Alliance with the exception of 2 or 3 people?
     
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    More like, everyone is a retard with the exception of 2-3 people per side. The people that win are just the ones that do well in spite of their retardness.

    I've always treated BGs as a time killer, even when I needed honor. Put the TV on with some good shows and run around and attack people every now and then. I only really try when it looks like we've got an advantage to push or I'm running with a premade group. Otherwise I try to pay as little attention to the BG as possible since it will only make me angry at how terrible people are at the game.
     
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    My friend wants me to get Civ 5. Having never played a Civ game before I've been told I've been missing out, and since I like turn-based strategy games, I'm willing to give it a try. I have a couple of questions, if anyone has the game:

    1. How much replayability does it have? From what I've seen your leader determines some units you can get, but the tech tree is the same for everyone. If you play it through once, can you play it again and have a completely different experience?

    2. How smart are the computer opponents?

    The last real TBS games I've played were Master of Magic and Master of Orion 2 back in the 90's, so I'm interested to see how far they've come since then.
     
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    I can't speak to Civ 5 specifically, but Civ games generally are very replayable. I still play Civ 3, for example, years later. I'm hoping to pick up Civ 5 soon, actually, and assuming you like the game itself I'd assume high replayability.