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The drug thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by redbullgreygoose, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. lust4life

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    You fell asleep, so the med did what was it was supposed to do. However, regular Ambien (as opposed to Ambien CR--controlled release) delivers all of the active immediately, and the half-life of a 5 mg tablet is about 2.5 hours. Try taking the full dose and see if it sustains for the duration of the night (the literature states that the half-life of a 10 mg tablet is 2.6 hours, so I suspect you'll probably get the same results, unless it induces a deeper sleep for you). If not, ask your doctor for Ambien CR so you get a burst of active to get you to sleep, and then sustaining release throughout the night to maintain it. As far as feeling loopy, how much sleep did you get? I take 12.5 mg Ambien CR, go to bed around 10-10:30 and am up at 5-5:30 and feel fully rested. My wife hasn't reported any somnambular activities on my part, but even on the unconscious level, I'm probably too lazy.
     
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    I'm certainly going to give this a try. Thanks for the suggestion. Good to know I'm not crazy... I've got a bit left and perhaps I can find a xanax or something similar. Would Klonopin produce the same anti-anxiety affect?

    Did your "tolerance" for the high increase to where you could smoke more and more and feel comfortable, or do you always smoke very little? I've also toyed with the idea that maybe I just don't smoke enough to be comfortable with the high. Kind of like when you first start drinking as a teenager and you act like a fucking retard, totally can't handle your liquor, and generally act like the new kid on the alcohol train. But I've smoked enough over the years, and I'm old enough to think that would be nullified.

    thanks again for the suggestion.. gonna give it a whirl
     
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    I think this is more your problem. How many times have you smoked in your life? Your friends who just relax while your bugging out are much more experienced smokers so they just enjoy it while you are thinking the cops are going to bust in at any second.
     
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    Well, yeah my tolerance would increase. After a while, I would end up smoking more to get the same effect. But not before I was ready. It's not like I said "well I've been smoking a bong fart this long so now I'm going to bump up to two". I would just feel it out. Now I can smoke a full joint or an entire blunt. Maybe it's part experience and part tolerance/too much. I don't know, because as I was increasing my tolerance I was gaining more experience. But now I smoke just as much as everyone else.

    Also, the point of doing this is that if you end up getting anxious you've only smoked a little more than you can handle. So if you get anxious you'll sober up quickly. I remember on 4/20 on year I was smoking dro out of a bong. I cleared the whole bong and right away I could feel a panic attack coming on. I walked around the neighborhood where the party was for like 3 hours until the weed wore off. Another time I was smoking with some friends, got anxious, and circle a grocery store parking lot 4 times, and was still jittery for about an hour later AND I had already taken a full 2mg of xanax.
    The point is, you don't want that to happen to you. So you have to start small and work your way up.
     
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    On a side note but still related...I begin my very long journey of being a glass artist starting this summer/fall so if anyone has anyone questions about "Water filtration devices" or anything glass related, I am a small wiki on the subject.
     
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    Does anyone here own/collect zippos? I found mine digging through my room at my parent's house. I probably stuffed it away after I stopped smoking cigarettes. It's not really good for smoking weed, but I went and bought lighter fluid and filled it up. I've been playing around with it ever since.
     
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    Butane is okay for weed, if you want to go straight nature, heat up glass rod, a knife or use a hakko. Step below that is using hemp wicks.
     
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    I have two Zippos. One in my fishing vest and the other in my golf bag. Too heavy to carry around all the time, but great for instances when I'm in high winds like on a boat or a particularly windy day on the links (which is often the case here in TX).
     
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    I think I'm going to buy two more online. One is just a replica of one from 1941. The other is case with the marlboro logo on it. The second one is used and the actual lighter was replaced. But I just think the finish on the case is cool. I don't care about the actual lighter. Plus, due to this fact it's much much cheaper than the ones in mint condition.
     
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    Baking with marijuana

    I'm heading out on vacation and want to bring some edibles along with me. I figured the easiest method would be making pot-butter and baking some cookies.

    The problem is that every other website has vastly different recipes for butter. Also that I intend on sharing these snacks with some people who rarely smoke and I've heard the high with edibles is much more intense.

    So...

    The cookie recipe calls for 2 sticks of butter... would a half ounce be enough cooked in?

    Also I've heard of straining the butter to remove the shake but a friend told me to just run the bud through a coffee grinder on "fine" (after it's stemmed and seeded) and leave it right in the butter.

    Thoughts and experiences?
     
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    I would not leave it in the butter. Reefer is more jagged and sharp edged than most things people normally eat and will not play nice with your GI tract. Plus, once you've gotten all the THC out what's left looks like the burnt remains of a bowlpack, so you're not really missing anything. I'd recommend straining the butter through a cheesecloth or something equivalent once you've cooked it to your satisfaction to get rid of all the shake.
     
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    I agree. Way back when, I've had it both ways and the strained was far far better. No one wants to bite into a cookie and have what feels like sand on their tongue. It was gross. Go with straining it through cheesecloth, like Seeker said.

    One time a friend had made a bunch of chocolate chip cookies with the butter. I don't know how much or what quality he used but there was puking, it was that potent. It is a completely different high than any other. I'd say more like an all over body high, more like resin than the real deal. If you're handing them out to people that don't partake normally, be careful.
     
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    We just did this for our Phish weekend and everything turned out beautifully. This is the recipe I used:

    Here's one recipe for Bud Butter:

    Ingredients
    1 lb. of butter (not margarine!)
    1/2 ounce of finely ground marijuana

    Method
    Melt the butter in a sauce pan until it's simmering.
    Add the marijuana and let simmer for 30 minutes or so until the butter has turned green from the marijuana.
    Pour butter through a strainer to remove all the pieces of marijuana.
    Chill until solid.


    We simmered it for longer than 30 minutes over low heat, stirring occasionally and then put it through a strainer. Then we used the butter for a double batch of rice krispie treats. The only thing I'd change would be to use more marshmallows but other than that, everything was awesome. The high was completely giggly and clean and kind of hit you with a nice, smiley little pow.

    We also did the same recipe for brownies but infused the pot in oil instead. The only thing that went wrong was that the brownies didn't rise well but I think we should have made the oil a day ahead to let it get back to room temperature instead of mixing the hot oil with the brownie mix.
     
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    The absolute easiest method for making budder that I've seen is as follows:


    Take a crock pot, put it on low.

    Add:
    butter (amount will vary depending on recipe(s) you'll be using it in)
    ganja (amount will vary depending on quality and desired potency)
    1 cup water

    Let it cook for at least 4-6 hours (I did mine for 12). A long amount of time won't do any damage, as the heat is low enough not to break down any cannabinoids.

    After your desired amount of time, strain the mixture through at least a double layer of cheesecloth. Discard the plant remains. Put the budder/water mixture into any container you like, and stick it in the fridge for a couple hours. The budder will float to the surface and solidify, separating itself from the water. Now you've got a perfect ganja butter puck do with as you like.


    If you're making a batch of say, 24 cookies with your budder, using half an ounce of beaster/heady weed, you'd have cookies with the thc equivalent of almost .6 grams of weed per cookie. Just one of those would probably have you feeling pretty good. If you're making the same amount of cookies with half an ounce of mersh, you might need to eat 2 or more cookies.

    Eat one, wait at least an hour, then decide if you need to eat more. I've made the mistake of eating one cookie, waiting half an hour, not feeling anything then eating another. I spent close to four hours glued to my couch, when I really just wanted to have a good buzz for a few hours.
     
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    Heard that, at one Bonnaroo I went too we got some small dime sized chocolate weed treats. The hippy that made them must have used some straight high times chronic as I was still a decent smoker, but two floored me. The next year I made the same mistake of eating two instead of feeling one out then eating another. I passed out at the super jam concert, stepped on some guys face accidentally while leaving, and giggled for 4 straight hours about it until the sun came up.
     
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    So two questions for those that have done both, Peyote/Masculine and mushrooms, if anyone has done peyote or any other of the cacti how was it? And/or how did it compare to shrooms? I'm trying to get masculine but it seems like I might have to settle for mushrooms, this would be a first time with any psychodelic, any tips on a good atmosphere to them in?
     
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    By Masculine I'm assuming you mean mescaline. But regardless, the environment advice for hallucinogens is pretty universal. Be comfortable and safe the first time - once you've tripped a few times, raves or concerts or going out in public might be what you want - but the first time there is an excellent chance that you'll meet your spirit guide or see the linoleum in the bathroom evolve into a micro habitat where a new life spawns and evolves into civillisation and spend 3 hours talking to a tree or sitting on the vanity in the bathroom so that you don't trample the civillisation evolving on the ground.

    That shit is embarassing if you do it in the mall.

    I'm mostly a fan of acid rather then Mescaline or shrooms. I've not tried peyote because it's just too hard to get here, but LSD, Mescaline and shrooms are all good times, but Shrooms leave a taste like I imagine old socks and athlete's foot would taste in the back of my throat and mescaline is just more trouble to get hold of than it's worth for me. So my advice is a little tinted by that. Some people I know are dirty hippies and they get off on the whole commune with nature thing. They go out to the middle of nowhere and get wrecked so they can lay on the grass and watch the clouds and shit. They're right into the idea that shrooms/mescal and peyote are like totally natural highs dude - I don't really care about that - and I'm not a big commune with nature person so I don't really get it, but if that's your thing, just make sure you're well clear of sober campers and bears and shit and it's apparently a good time.

    Personally I prefer a nice comfortable house party or a few people at my house. If I'm tripping just to get brain fucked and get lost inside my own head - I like to hook up a projector to the Xbox or Windows Media Player or something with visualizations and put on some pink floyd or some really bass heavy trance and bliss waaay the fuck out. Finding the music that speaks to you while you're tripping can take a bit of experimenting - but the right music will just float you away into a part of your mind that you didn't know you had. And if you've got any kind of visuals with the trip, which is a large part of the point for me, the music visualizations that ship with the 360 or WMP projected onto a wall or something are a pretty intense way to fly.

    If I'm tripping to party - I tend to mix and match hallucinogens with amphetamines. Kandi Flipping (Ecstasy and Acid) or a skin head cocktail (Acid, Speed and Vodka) are both good times. Tripping without any other influences takes me a little to far out of my mind to be a social animal - speed or E drops me into a party mood. If you're going to trip in a party environment - party with people who are mellow and chilled if you can. Angry or manic people make trips either weird or awful unless you've got the hang of taking the trip where you want it to go. At a mellow party, especially when you're learning how to handle the weird shit in your brain after taking a hallucinogen, there's a much better chance that you'll laugh your ass off and stare into space for a while before eventually realizing that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves (RIP Bill Hicks). Or that you'll see a cloud or a tree that looks like a tit and giggle about it for hours.
     
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    Scootah I appreciate the post 10x. As you said peyote is WAAAY to difficult to get in my parts as well. I looked into the other types of cacti and it seems peyote would be the best bet to go, that or chugging 4-5 16 oz glasses of ground cacti! I plan on doing shrooms with a buddy and I believe we might have a sober person with just to watch what we do. Like I said again thank you! Appreciate the much needed advice.
     
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    If you are going to have a sober person with you make sure it is not someone who will think it is funny to fuck with you. Especially if it is your first time.
     
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    A friend of mine has a DICK roommate who thinks it is hillarious to fuck with stoned/tripping people. He has threatened people with a knife and takes delight in jumping out to freak out people's paranoia. I have repeatedly offered to kick his fucking teeth in - but apparently he's litigious and contributes to the rent or something. But Zyron has an incredibly good point about how fucktarded people can be if they don't get drug use and don't understand where your head is.