The drug thread

got my dead head lightning bolt today....for dropping 25 hits of acid at one time

 

Wow, you must be really smart. People will be so impressed you risked permanently frying your brain for a small metal lightning bolt.

 

You may have a point...but it was one hell of a trip! Also, might I add, alot of special privileges come with the bolt...privileges which I am not at the liberty to talk about, but feel free to shoot me a pm if you're curious.

 

Let me guess, you aren't at liberty to talk about it because you haven't made it up yet?

 

I thought the discussion of selling product was forbidden?

 

The only thing forbidden is being retarded, and I have a feeling by earning that lightening bolt you may have crossed the boarder. But that's just my opinion, I have a feeling an IQ test would prove my point.

 

If the only thing forbidden is being retarded, this board wouldn't exist. From the sounds of it, you've probably never dropped acid. Don't knock it till you'd tried it.

 

SGEDIT: Strike two. Be done.

 

Anyone else hate it when you hear some fuck head claiming they have G-13? Even worse, people fucking believe it. Some asshole gets some really good shit, claims it's some "ultra super duper secret gova'ment strain of ultra potey weed, man" and charge 10,000 a gram* for it. It's so frustrating hearing some idiot suburban kid claiming he got the hook up on a fictional strain of marijuana that they would never be able to find even if it did exist.


*Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit.

 

When you buy an illegal drug from a street vendor - it's in all likelihood not what you think you're buying. There are a few products like Weed or Shrooms (with some notable objections) that you can usually visually identify, but when you buy a white powder, or a pressed pill in a ziplock from some shmuck in a flop house or a night club - there's an excellent chance that it's been cut with something. To start with, it was probably manufactured by some idiot who failed tenth grade chemistry, in a trailer, using a recipe downloaded form the intarwebs. Even if he got it right, which is unlikely, it's probably not going to be sold as the drug that he manufactured. Street users know half a dozen drugs by name and effect - but reality is that dozens of different drugs are sold as MDMA and hundreds are sold as some kind of ecstacy. There's almost as many different products sold as Speed. The same goes for GHB and hallucinogens are commonly sold as Acid when they're any one of a hundred different products.

The cook will then probably sell 2lb bricks of pure to guys with a pill press or gang affiliations who then distribute it. They They almost certainly cut those 2lb bricks into at least 5lbs (or anywhere up to 100 lbs) of product before they press or bag it. Some products like LSD are meant to be diluted before they're consumed and other products like MDMA are usually consumed in pills where they're meant to be floated in some other product so that they hold shape. But mostly those products are cut with something harmless like Glucose. But you find gear cut with everything from rat poison to laundry detergent to baking soda.

Distributors and dealers then cut again before they sell to the end consumer usually. If it passes through a few sets of hands between first purchaser and end consumer - it often gets cut to various degrees as it passes through each sellers hands.

Pure MDMA is VERY rare in street transactions. Almost unheard of anywhere in the last 10 years in Europe, Australia or North America. Lots of people claim differently but can't prove it. Cut MDMA reaches street transactions occasionally. Very occasionally in powdered form. A bit more often as pills. But there's no economic sense in selling pure to consumers and not much economic sense in selling cut MDMA even. MDA, MDX, and dozens and dozens of other products sell just as well, produce a comparable effect and cost a fraction of the price to source. Almost anyone selling you pure or a product they claim is actual MDMA is either full of it, or just bought from a guy and is taken them at face value. You can buy reagent tests from different vendors that let you scrape a sample of your pill or a small amount of powder into the test agent and the color it turns confirms what you actually have. The problem is that if you buy a pill that contains 10% active agent and 90% float and bulker - the active agent might be 2% MDMA and 98% some drug that your reagent kit doesn't recognize, or even 51% MDMA and 49% some other randomly selected drug - you'll often still get a positive reaction. The best test kits are expensive and require a larger sample. But there's still a threshold to accuracy.

So coming back to the long abandonned point. The difference between E and Molly is largely price. If you pay more for it, there's a reasonable chance that it is actually better quality. Some dealers maintain their revenue channel by supplying a higher quality product at a higher price. But it's difficult to check the accuracy of claims about how pure the MDMA you're being sold is, and it's not like you can go to a better business bureau if you get bad shit. If you're all kinds of stupid - you can go and break your dealer's legs for selling you bad shit - but that's a great way to end up shot for most people. So a sound business relationship with a vendor who moves enough weight that his suppliers actually sell him what he orders - so they can keep his return business, not a bag of white powdered shit as part of a quick cash grab.

Mostly you're gambling when you eat/snort/jack or smoke an illegal drug. If you want a safe high - well you're pretty much fucked. Legal sales you can at least be reasonably confident that you're getting what you think you're getting. The best drugs are risky unfortunately.

 

Is sporadic (6 times a year) use of E and/or Molly more neurotoxic than weekly use of Alcohol?

I've heard a bunch of bullshit that goes either way.

 

Depends on Dose (one pill 6 times a year or one fist full of pills 6 times a year?) and the active agent in your gear (MDMA? MDA? MDX? Ratpoison and GHB soaked into Glucose?). Assuming that you're getting about 30-40% pure MDMA cut with non toxic materials for bulk and float, and consuming an average dose 2x70mg (about 7/10ths of a point) in a night 6 times a year - and assuming you have typical neurochemistry - which as a whole is a pretty fucking optimistic assumption - then you're probably (based on studies from organisations like the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies - who may or may not be a tad biased) not going to see any significant negative implications to your physiological or psychological health in a currently well studied time frame. There is still a risk and that risk goes up dramatically if you get bad shit or have a predisposition towards any number of conditions or if you start jacking your dose or mixing with other products. MDMA is also much, much less toxic than most of the alternative products that are sold as MDMA.

Average consumption of average strength alcohol in a person of average health also probably won't see any significant negative implications to your physiological or psychological health on an equivalent time scale. But Alcohol is A) quality controlled and heavily regulated and B) much more robustly studied over long periods with consistent quality control and broader sample data. There are lots of long term arguments about alcohol being bad for you that just can't be compared with MDMA because the data isn't there.

Long term implications of using MDMA is anywhere from some dental enamel damage to baldness, depression, impotence and renal failure. Depending on which studies you read. All of the studies have pretty bad data - but I personally buy into the dental enamel damage and I suspect that increased prevalence of depression and anxiety is probably a valid observation. Impotence on the short term is a known common side effect of Amphetamines in general - but I don't know of any solid studies that suggest long term impotence is a significant risk after you stop using.

But reality is that long term use and long term implications aren't well studied and it's unlikely that you'll go any significant period getting only good gear that's actually MDMA and has only been cut with non harmful substances. Unless you're buying from a pharmaceutical provider for research purposes anyway - and if you are, please drop me a PM.

 

haha sounds just about right...or when people try to push mexican brick saying its "its mad fire bro"

 

Well yeah but unless you're a complete idiot or lack any experience at all you should be able to tell the difference between shit and high quality fire. The problem with dealers calling their weed G-13 is that they know they can get away with charging more for it. Even though their weed is probably very good and high quality they're just using an urban legend to charge more. I guess there's a sucker born every minute.

 

Does anyone know what can cause a false positive result for opiods in a drug test? I took a drug test for probation yesterday, and I came out positive for opiods, even though I haven't had any for about 2 years.
Because of this crap, I now have to undergo random drug tests.

 

Poppy seeds. Did you eat anything with poppy seeds around the time you took the test?

 

I forgot to mention that no, I have not had a poppy seed anything in years. This is really pissing me off. I have also heard that sesame seeds can cause a false positive.

 

Looked around and this is what I found:

Maybe your liver is failing! (Always look on the bright side of life)