The EPIC Turkey Day.. ZOMG & THE EPIC XMAS D.T BOOM ROASTED!

I hate to bust up your John Hughes retrospective, but I think you're seriously underestimating the sexual potential of a bunch of hormonal teenagers who love attention and have access to dark corners. I'd even put money on theater and band kids having BETTER sex.

 

You might be on to something http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php

Some interesting numbers:
''By the age of 19, 80% of US males and 75% of women have lost their virginity, and 87% of college students have had sex. But this number appears to be much lower at elite (i.e. more intelligent) colleges. According to the article, only 56% of Princeton undergraduates have had intercourse. At Harvard 59% of the undergraduates are non-virgins, and at MIT, only a slight majority, 51%, have had intercourse. Further, only 65% of MIT graduate students have had sex.

The student surveys at MIT and Wellesley also compared virginity by academic major. The chart for Wellesley displayed below shows that 0% of studio art majors were virgins, but 72% of biology majors were virgins, and 83% of biochem and math majors were virgins! Similarly, at MIT 20% of 'humanities' majors were virgins, but 73% of biology majors. (Apparently those most likely to read Darwin are also the least Darwinian!)''

 

Or in reality, others were referring to sex with people that had living things in their hair.

So that's the diagnosis around here? You were some mean, gay asshole in school if you didn't pick up a woodwind instrument and participated in something that students wern't actually FORCED to watch in daytime assemblies?

I smell old chips sitting on shoulders.

 

Jeezus this thread is getting hard to keep up with. I go away for 18 hours you fuckers add 20 more pages! Well done! I don't know if it's sad or awesome, but I always look forward to reading the holiday drunk thread during the last weeks of the year.

 

tarps gonna tarp

 

Someone is awful defensive about blowing up his preconceived notions of high school.

Lets do some comparisons, shall we? (Keep in mind, this is my experience, in my town, with friends on the football team and in the band)

Early Summer:

Football players were at the school 5 hours a day working out and doing "camps." When they got home, they partied.

The band geeks were not doing a god damned thing but hanging out with friends at parties.

Late Summer:
For football players, two-a-days kicked in, they were at the school from 9 am until 9 pm every single day, except about 2 hours for lunch, when they wandered down town. No parties, too tired.

For band geeks, "band camp" kicked in. They were at school for 5 hours a day (with a one hour lunch break) and then hung out at night at band parties (admittedly geeky, but more sex than you'd think).

Fall:
Football players have school all day, practice after school, and they'd get done around 8. If they had homework, they had to finish it. Maybe our school was more strict than most, but the football players I knew actually had to do some semblance of work to get passing grades.

Band geeks had three practices a week, tops, giving us more time to do homework and more time to hang out with friends, usually other band geeks. Add into that 6 hour bus drives to contests, with 1 parent for every 20 kids, and about 5 hours of down time at contests, and you get a lot of shenanigans (i.e. people sneaking back to the bus to fool around). Again, not denying that football players got laid after the games, but saying that band geeks were getting laid during the week, while football players were usually busy all week, until the weekend.

Winter: Around this time, Football and Marching band are both done, giving both groups much more free time. The primary difference? Football players still have weight lifting, keeping them at school until 5 or 6 at night. Also, many of the football players also play basketball and baseball, keeping them busy. Band geeks are done, and have nothing better to do than hang out. This last through spring, into the summer, when the cycle repeats.

At the end of the day, it is simple math:

Band geeks are exposed to more girls (unless you had coed football/basketball/baseball teams) for longer periods of time and have significantly more down time than football players. I don't know any football players that could drive home after school, but before practice, for a quickie. I knew several band geeks that did this routinely. I don't know any football players that were taking over night trips and fucking in hotel rooms on the school's dime. I knew several band geeks that did. Didn't hear of any football players fucking on the bus at an away game, but I've heard of plenty of band geeks fucking on the bus either driving too or from contests, or sneaking back during a contest. If you don't think that adds up to more sex, then maybe you're retarded.

Now, all that being said, I am not making the argument that football players didn't get laid in high school. That would be a stupid argument. I am arguing that a combination of significantly more down time and much more access to the opposite sex led the band geeks to be more sexually active than the football players in my town. And, on top of that, none of this takes the other factor into account: band geeks were generally looked upon as 'good kids' and were trusted more, while football players had a reputation for throwing parties, and they were watched closer by parents and faculty at the school. Band geeks were more trusted. Football players always had to worry about the coach finding out about them doing something stupid and facing the coach's wrath (usually up-downs until they puked, and then continuing to do up-downs for a bit in said pile of puke).

Now, if you want to make the argument that the football players nailed hotter women, you'd have a case. Football players dated cheerleaders. Band geeks dated other band geeks, choir girls, or flag girls. Of course the cheerleader is going to choose the asshole jock over the band geek, but we're not talking about who fucks more cheerleaders, we're talking about who fucks more, period.

 

Who's talking about "getting the hot girl"? You don't have to get the head cheerleader to agree to go to prom with you to get laid.

All the sex practice in the world won't make you any better, if you're practicing the wrong things. I'm putting my money on the group of people who practice digital and lingual manipulation for hours each day. And on the people who are intelligent and just a little bit insecure.

 

Let me solve this pretty quickly. People who were in group activities for long extended periods of time, be it sports, mathclub, artclub or anything ended up more likely to be fucking each other. Its the kids that didn't participate in much except weekend parties that were slowest to fuck. The longer you're physically around someone of the opposite sex without a ton of other options around, the more the attraction is going to grow and you toss in the hormones of teenagers.

Its Occam's Razor here. When you remove any personal experience bias. If you were in a group outside of the normal friend group, you chance of getting laid increased exponentially. If you were in math club and there were girls, you got laid because the math club girls weren't getting the jocks and the math club guys weren't getting the cheerleaders.

Breaking away, side question though. When you make dinner plans with a bunch of people at a pretty general restaurant, what's the deal with looking at the menu beforehand? I personally find it fucking retarded. If you have food allergies that's one thing, but I think part of the experience is getting the menus and talking it about it with everyone at the table. If everyone already knows what they want to get 5 days before, I think it fucks up part of the dinner. Am I the crazy one?

 

This. Don't get me wrong. I definitely heard that the band kids were hooking up with each other. But if I had not had a girlfriend through most of my high school career, I could have been picky and still have easily graduated in the double digits. Hell my senior year the girl friend suggest we take a break. The day after that I had sex with a cheerleader through absolutely no work on my part. I happened to mention the girl and I were on a break, and she came over after school to work on a project and after a maybe five minutes initiated the whole thing.

And as far as the being busy with school work goes, that is a non starter. My average school day my senior year consisted of

1st hour - Special needs aid. Honestly the most work I had to do all day. There was just a lot of things to do with kids who could barely take care of them selves. But of course there was no homework.

2nd hour - A.P. English. My teacher was by far the least intelligent person in the room. So our classes were mostly me arguing with her. Often she would forget to assign the homework because she would get so frustrated or break down in tears.

3rd hour - German. My teacher was pretty cool, and the class was genuinely enjoyable. And every Friday she excused me and the other football player in class to go watch game film.

Lunch

4th hour - Math. This class was taught by the assistant wrestling coach. He actually asked me to stop coming to class because I had was guaranteed an A, and all I did was talk to the two girls I sat with. He found this very disruptive to trying to actually teach. So I ended up getting an hour and a half for lunch.

5th hour - American history. Taught by one of the football coaches. Once again I had to do no work. He seemed genuinely shocked when I actually earned an A on our final. He told me he was getting ready to just give me the A, and only graded it out of a morbid curiosity.

6th hour - Library aid. This happened to coincide with the cheerleaders sixth hour. You can guess where I spent most of my time.

All of these classes could be left at will for any reason from I have to pull weight, to I have to get ready for the game. I graduated with well over 30 documented absences, and probably double that number in actuality.

I don't know how it is in other places, but in Oklahoma if you are a good athlete the world will happily kiss your ass. And the girls that band kids are drooling over are very busy swinging from your dick.


And to clarify the comment that got my sexuality called into question was just supposed to be a joke about living with my girlfriend.

 

Re: bolded part. Pretty much this, yeah.

As to your side question, I always look at the menu beforehand so I can figure out what I want to get and I'm not holding other people up. Sometimes it takes me awhile to decide, so I like to speed up that process.

Mostly, I'll just get a general feel for the sort of menu it is, but occasionally something will really pop out.

 

Well to be fair, I'd understand if the dinner plans were for "Japanese/Irish/African Fusion" then yeah, look at the Menu. But when someone tosses out "Italian Restaurant" "BBQ Restaurant" "Burger Place" or something relatively general, the thought of looking at the menu never comes to mind. Tonight we're going to BBQ place. So we know there are going to be at least 4-5 staples given you can rely on right? If someone says "We're going to a nice Italian place (not Olive Garden)" doesn't that instantly bring like 5-7 dishes you know every Italian place has you know will pass?

Maybe I'm just weird.

 

Oh, if it's something like that, I couldn't decide what I want beforehand. I don't even know what i want for lunch, and I should probably eat in the next ten minutes or so. Only reason I'd look then is to see what the prices are like.

 

I am one of those people that can find something to eat at almost anyplace I go. So checking a menu never really occurs to me either.