The EPIC Turkey Day.. ZOMG & THE EPIC XMAS D.T BOOM ROASTED!

Okay, I have a question about this and it's not necessarily directed at you, but to all. I agree with the quoted sentence, as I believe that to be true. My question is: So? Why does the willingness to have sex, nullify friendship?

I have a very good female friend. We've been friends for a little over 10 years. During that time, she's been divorced, I've broken up with a LTR, she's started seeing someone else, and I've had a grand time with a string of fun women, and have now been in a relationship for over a year. We aren't relationship material for each other. We both know that, and aren't afraid of it. But she's fucking beautiful, and other than being a bit fat myself, I'm not hideous. If there were nothing in the way between us, and she wanted to have some sex and knock the cobwebs out, I certainly would. Why not? Why does the willingness to do that make me not a "real" friend? I'm not friends with her because I hope to fuck her someday. We have a great time when ever we're together. We've gone through good times and bad times...sometimes we were the only ones who could be there for each other. We are friends because we like each other. The difference between her and my guy friends is that she's fucking hot and has a vagina. If my best guy friend was fucking hot and had a vagina, who's to say I wouldn't want to fuck him/her too? Why am I considered a "real" friend to him, simply because I'm not gay, am not sexually attracted to him, and therefore would not fuck him? Would my female friend's willingness to fuck me mean she really isn't my friend, either?

The guys who are only "friends" with women because they want to fuck them, aren't friends. I agree with that whole heartedly. Much like the guy who hangs out with another guy, simply because he has money or fame or whatever. They have ulterior motives and aren't necessarily hanging with the people because they like them. They want something else, much like...ehem...whores. But when a guy is hanging with someone because they like that person and enjoy their company, that person being rich or having tits and a vagina really doesn't determine the friendship. Does it?

tl;dr: Why does the willingness to fuck a female friend negate the possibility of being "real" friends?

 

If you're ever not married, let me know. I'd love to set you up with one of my friends.

 

I can get behind that, but isn't there a difference between "want" and "would"? As in, I don't actively want to sleep with my friend. I don't think about it, it's not something that I hope or wish for, nor do I do anything with/for her that I wouldn't do for any friend of mine. I just know that I would be willing to sleep with her, if she offered up the possibility and nothing was in the way of it.

 

I cannot fully agree with that story/statement. You are assuming what was going on in his mind. Maybe he wasn't one to cram for a final. Theres a chance he was already prepared and thought, "why not go out tonight?" You are basically saying that he will only hang out with you because he wants to fuck you. And not because he actually enjoys your company/wants to get a meal.

 

I think there's a false dichotomy going on. It's not that guy is only friends with you because he wants to fuck you, or is only friends with people he wants to fuck, but rather that in the majority of cases, there's no reason not to fuck you if the opportunity arose. From his perspective he loses basically nothing, and gains a PhD worth of carnal knowledge. Why wouldn't he go for that?

Yes there are guys who are creepy and manipulative, and there are guys who are hopelessly in love with you and think they can turn it all around, but the majority of your guy friends hang out with you because they enjoy your company, and if the chance arose they'd toss you a roll in the hay because, fuck it, why not?

 

Seriously. What guy wouldn't want any excuse to get out of hitting the books? For that matter, what person wouldn't want any excuse to get out of hitting the books? I know when I was in college I was Queen of Procrastination.

 

Yes, I think there is probably a difference between want and would. I didn't mean to imply that I don't have any female friends, because I'm trying to actively fuck them all. I took the original statement that Dcc said, which I think was "he doesn't want to bang me" as "he wouldn't bang me." And, I meant to imply that, yes, he would bang you.

And, for your question about "why does the willingness negate . . ." - it's been my experience, that this is also one-sided. I have had girls say, "I don't want to sleep with you, because it would mess up our friendship." While that may be the way they felt, it's not the way I felt. I was perfectly content to sleep with her and still be her friend afterwards. (I have a friend who told me that while we were in college. I told her that I would still be her friend. So, we slept together, never dated, and we're still friends today. Win!)

 

I've been a procrastinator for as long as I can remember. I started college when I was 13. I procrastinated for every single class I ever took. It doesn't matter what program I was in. To this day, for state exams, I still procrastinate. You cannot tell me that every single person that is an "Engineering Program," doesn't try to blow off studying for a final.

 

Yes. I have a BS in Physics and a BS in Civil Engineering. I can tell you right now, that in college, if I had to choose between getting laid and taking a final exam, much less studying for one, I'd have gone with the sex.

 

It's Christmas tradition in my family that when the women cooking start the gravy they mix up a round of Bloody Mary. I bet they won't ask me to do it next year.

 

I gotta get up for work at 3:30. So I'm going to start drinking now. HUZZAH? Huzzah.



Who doesn't like the coc? I've got an unhealthy man crush on Pepper.

 

I can safely say I've never tried and never will want to try a Bloody Mary.
When you put stalks of celery into drinks, it's just...fucking weird.

 

In short, fuck Christmas, Bruges, sweatpants, and being romantic. Women can go fuck themselves.

 

I want to know who here sleeps in sweat pants. Now, I know a certain individual sleeps in train pajamas, but I won't mention any names. I have never in my life slept in sweatpants. Feedback, please?