It does, it really does. It's not as fun as honey and the like. Body heat dissolves powder. I think that's why so many Canadians still like winter up here: it doesn't melt your blow.
Im curious about this too. I got stood up for the first time last week after getting a girls number the proceeding weekend. We texted for a few days and I asked, via text if she'd like to go out for drinks. It turned out she worked insanely close to my work and home and I suggested a nearby bar. She agreed and we set up a time, she had seem pretty willing. That day she text if I had anyone else coming with me, strange at the time and in hindsight telling of cold feet. But I got off work that night, called her up and left a message I'd be there in 25-30 minutes. Called her up again after feeding my dog and changing but it went straight to voicemail. At that point I figured it was a bust but went to the bar anyway because the Bengals were playing. I eventually got a text 20 minutes or so after we were supposed to meet saying she had just gotten out of the shower and wasn't sure if she was coming out or not because "it was cold out." Told her that was a new one on me and never talked with her again. See like Jennatalia, I fucking hate talking on the phone. Even if Ive been hanging out with a girl for a while and it's just chit chat stuff. Is the actual call for the date important? Are getting to know you calls better than text form?
I prefer texting over talking on the phone because awkward pauses are more easily avoided and the conversation can be picked up or put on hold as needed. I wouldn't want to have the entire "getting to know you" conversation via text, but texting just to find a mutually agreeable time and place for drinks or a date is more than acceptable.
A fair point - strictly a post-shower activity. Like so many of the more entertaining things in life. I suspect its predominantly a male thing (although I have had one ex that was rather enamored with the idea). Part of it is the visual element, which does tend to be striking. Part of it is the taboo, and there are almost certainly subconscious and problematic power issues that I don't want to unpack because sometimes I like to have nice things. Predominantly, though, its a fetishizing drugs thing. For those of us for whom drugs are intimately entwined with sex, wires get crossed and they become another sex toy. (Sounds weird? Well, no doubt it is, but check out the search stats for 'women smoking cigarettes' or 'women doing bong hits'. Shit, check out Youtube. (Personally I rather like KrazyKelly4, but ymmv.) It's a common weirdness.) Show me a vibrator that can compete with X for resulting in an intense orgasm and I'll show you some shitty X. Although really, why choose? Two great tastes and all that. I must admit, I once got something that wasn't strictly as advertised and burned like an absolute motherfuck. Having your nasal passages instantly block up while you cough and choke and tears pour from your eyes is sadly not the smoothest look in the world. Ahh, memories. More generally, I was looking to get a sense of whether the request is a little much in the early days of a semi-relationship. Y'know, whether its one of those things that its better to wait a month or three before attempting. I wasn't really looking for the "precisely 2:12am, or after the 5th kiss but prior to the 6th" type advice. I laughed my ass off at some of these replies and PMs though so cheers for that! And now, back to your regularly scheduled drug-free TiB.
Calling is one of my few old fashioned moves, I'd like the benefit of my voice, tone, and delivery to communicate who I am. Also since a lot of guys don't call first, the girl I tend to like appreciate it more. I've been told by girls who are like the girls I like "Call = date, text = booty call." Also "Calls = balls, and impressive." Doesn't matter, I called, she didn't pick up. On to the next one, chalk this up to a practice round. The whole fear of awkward pauses isn't something I'm concerned about, I'm very good with conversation and that's not an issue. I wonder what the psychology behind "don't like talking on the phone" is because that didn't pop up until texting and IMing became available.
I've never liked talking on the phone, unless I'm catching up with someone I talk to infrequently and thus won't have any conversational lulls with, or talking to someone about something lengthy and specific, like a class assignment. I'm easily distracted, so chatting on the phone about nothing in particular is difficult for me to focus on and I lose my train of thought.
Yeah, I find the entire thing absolutely retarded. And in regards to those "scared of being called" or "talking on the phone" I definitely keep those first phone conversations super short. "Hey how are you doing? I was thinking it'd be fun if we went here, at this date and time, does that work for you? Yes, okay, I have to run, I'll talk to you then. Bye." Not sticking around too long on the phone. Anyway, the girl did get back to me. Thank you, thank you, I do good work.
How is talking on the fucking phone become this taboo and scrutinized? I met my fiance online. The first time we talked was through AIM. Once I knew I wanted to meet her, I gave her my phone number. She then texted me a couple times and I got sick of touch-typing on my then-stupid phone, so I called her. I remember her being kind of surprised that I called now that I think about it, but I said that I hate texting and that I gave her my number so I could hear her voice and talk like real people for a few minutes. She seemed to like that. Calling someone shouldn't be a move. It should just be what you do. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go rewind the tape in my VCR.
I'd just see how the conversation goes. You can tell when someone wants to get off the phone. If a girl doesn't want to see you because you called instead of texted, then wow. And if that doesn't work, just head over to some of the PUA forums and see what advice they dispense. Seems to work for them.
Anything becomes a move when it is no longer the baseline approach. Especially when girls are surprised you did it. Anyway, thanks TiBettes and guys that aren't girls but just had to give their opinions anyway.
I have no idea what else to get the girl for Christmas and its 4 days away. So far I got here: Winter boots Ski gloves Some nice martini mix stuff Some other little stuff What else can I get her that's not jewelry?
Last year the boyfriend gave me a coupon book for "250 opportunities to suck my cock". You could try that.