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The Workout/Exercise thread

Discussion in 'Sports Board' started by Crown Royal, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. Frank

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    I don't think it should matter unless you're eating the yolks, that's were the fat is. If you're eating the yolks it can help your omega 3/omega 6 ratio, but if you're going to throw the yolks out I wouldn't waste your money.
     
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    Any chance I can get your paleo meatloaf recipe Frank?
     
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    blech. Take the grains out completely, and instead eat vegetables or more protein. A sweet potato at breakfast is WAY better for you than grains/gluten.


    and no sugar.
     
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    So I've been reading alot about paleo, and I love it in theory. And I think I could get rid of grains fairly easily, once I get in a better snacking mode, but no dairy would kill me. Specifically milk and greek yogurt. I don't eat a ton of cheese, mostly just feta and occasional blue cheese, but giving up milk and yogurt would be WAY harder than bread or rice.
     
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    I hear you dude, I live on a fucking dairy farm, the cows I use to get milk from are in my backyard and that shit is delicious, I use to pound a pint or two of glass coating whole milk a day.

    While I think you should at least experiment with taking dairy out for a month or so to just see how you feel, there's a lot of controversy in the paleo community about whether or not it's good for you. Robb Wolf thinks you should cut it out for the most part, but he sounds like he has a shitty digestive system, that's not a criticism, it's just that he seems a little more biased to gong all out on paleo due to his personal results. Mark Sisson who's published and very well respected in the field has dairy pretty frequently and basically says he doesn't know if it's good or bad, but if all other things being equal you feel the same with it in and out of your diet, then drink up. The most important thing is ditching the grains, you could honestly probably just get rid of grains and processed foods, keep dairy and legumes in your diet and you'll probably be 80-90% of the way there in terms of how much better you feel.
     
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    And give up my post-training chocolate milk? I think not.
     
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    So far so good. Hips are really the part that is taking squatting so often the hardest, so I'm doing a lot of mobility work and hip flexor stretches, along with really working out the kinks with the monster stick and applying liniment before bed. Of course I'm already dealing with "you shouldn't be squatting so much, it's bad for your knees/back/etc" but that's to be expected. The only thing that worried me was that on the last 5x today I lost tension in my back so I bowed forward slightly on my last rep. But I'll just have to be more cognizant of my initial setup. Base mesocycle here I come.
     
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    Crazy old board question. Mike had me add Good Mornings to one of the days in the Mike's Beginner Program, but I can't remember if it was on the day I was already do Squats/Deads or if it was on the overall back day (pullups, bent over rows).

    I think it was the latter, but I can't honestly remember.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I thought it was something you could add on Friday or sub in for stiff leg deads. Doing good mornings the day after squats and deads (pullup/bent over rows day) seems a little excessive.

    I started doing them on squat and dead day myself with good results, but I was already lifting consistently for six months when I did that, if I were to go back to the gym now it would probably kick my ass to do squats, deads and good mornings the same day.
     
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    GM's are an accessory that you typically do in the same workout as your squat or deadlift. Doing them on a day where you don't squat or DL seems kind of pointless.
     
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    Yeah, I honestly can't remember. I don't know if I need them anymore, because I did so much with kettlebell swings over the last couple of years that my lower back is much stronger than it used to be.

    Thanks guys.
     
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    That makes sense then, Friday had SL deads and front squats.
     
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    So for some stupid reason I had the urge for Pizza Hut pizza and breadsticks today so that's what I ate for lunch and immediately regretted it. Then to compound that feeling I had a pretty intense workout tonight and felt like I was going to puke throughout most of it due to the shit I had earlier in the day. Last time I have a bad meal before a workout.
     
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    I've toned down my heavy lifting and have been focusing more on speed and longer sets to get myself ready for epic volleyball day. I've been doing the 50-rep rhythm squats and Bulgarian split squats as described at DeFranco's Training. My gym doesn't have the stuff to do the other exercises, unfortunately. I've also added in swimming, trying to lean out a bit.

    I am still doing my other "heavy" stuff (bench, military press, that kind of thing) but as far as legs go, just training for explosiveness. Any other ideas?
     
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    One last paleo related question, how do you guys bulk up sans rice and whatnot? Just eat what you normally eat, but alot more?

    I lost 5-7 lbs recently through cutting alot of my grains and some other shitty foods out, plus I was sick for a bit. Thats all fine and dandy, but it wasn't the "right way" and it made me realize I wasn't where I wanted to be. So I want to put that 5-7 lbs back on, but in a good way. Not slamming a bunch of rice before a workout and putting on 2lbs of muscle and 5 of fat like my body likes to do.
     
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    Once you become fat adapted you should be able to bulk up without much carbohydrates, maybe throw in some dark chocolate* as an easy extra calorie source and throw in more fruit than normal. Also go heavy on the fatty meats, if you're going to do this though get grass fed, grass fed steak is WAY more expensive than grain fed, but grass fed ground beef is usually not too much more. The high fat meats are where you see the lion's share of health benefits by going grass fed and the cost spread is the lowest.

    If you're kicking your ass with endurance training too you might want to throw in some yams or sweet potatoes (they're high carbohydrate tuberous roots, not grains) after an endurance workout.

    If all else fails throwing in some whole milk may be able to get you that extra mile. It's not ideal, but it's a much better alternative than grains and super cheap.

    *Ideally you want the cocoa content above 80% (I'd go as far as to say 90% but I love dark chocolate). Some people need to ease themselves into that high a cocoa content because they're big blubbering vaginas that are use to milk chocolate (btw, if you think you love chocolate and like milk chocolate, you like sugar, not chocolate, stop kidding yourself fatty) so you might have to start at 70% and work your way up. If you're looking to splurge they have some really good stuff at Whole Foods and the hippy section of other major chains, but you can usually get cheaper stuff in the baking aisle.
     
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    Frank and Winterbike, appreciate it, both of you. I figured "good fats" would be key. Increase my beef intake in place of chicken sometimes as well as switch to whole milk on workout days. I already cook with alot of olive oil, so increasing my intake of that isn't an issue at all. Probably go more heavy on avocados and the like.

    I was under the impression that potatoes werent preferable cause they were starchy, or is that a grey area?
     
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    I'd stay away from white potatoes and just go with sweet potatoes or yams.
     
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    I started Paleo yesterday, and holy shit Whole Foods is pricey. The taste of it makes it worth it though, the grapes were the best I have ever eaten, the chicken and eggs also tasted delicious and have a better texture than the hormone and sodium enhanced by-product at the large retailers.

    I'm excited to see results. Not only a weight loss, but I want to feel better. I have frequent bouts with abdominal pain, my joints ache, etc. I am interested to see if my hormones stabilize some.
     
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    They should. And your aches should diminish as well.



    For you guys starting paleo - the key is to be prepared. If you allow yourself to get hungry without having some kind of snack or meal ready to go, you're going to realize exactly how *easy* it is to eat in our culture. Food is everywhere, and choices abound. Once that voice in your head starts saying "FEED ME NOW!" it's easy to rationalize eating a shitty meal. Be prepared with something ready to go. I like to have red bell pepper and onion sliced up and to snack on that with hummus while I'm making my meal.