I hate hate hate going up the chain of command unless I absolutely have to. It sounds like he doesn't intimidate you, as you've corrected his behavior toward you before. This is the same thing, except you're correcting his behavior toward someone else. "Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I didn't at all appreciate the way you spoke to <what's her name>. It was rude, disrespectful, and uncalled for. It made me Uncomfortable, and is creating a Hostile Work Environment for everyone within ear shot. At least, that’s how it Makes Me Feel. I'm certain you're not treating her that way solely because She's a Woman, as I've had to talk to you about the way you address me as well. Still, if your Abusive Behavior towards your peers and reports continues, I will have no choice but to ask you accompany me to a meeting with the Next Level of Authority, so I can report your Unacceptable Behavior. Most training for a Hostile Work Environment situation says that I should speak to you directly, first. I am doing so now. Next time I will escalate it." And then walk away. Be professional, calm, and matter of fact. Do not argue or debate, no matter how bad he might want to defend himself. If he tries, simply say “this is not a debate, and you don’t need to explain anything to me. I’m simply letting you know, that if you continue to create a Hostile Work Environment, I will report you.” and continue walking away. I capitalized some things there, because those are some of the key words to use in order to make the whole thing official and serious. If that's the route you want to take it, that is. I've only had to do that a couple times in my career, and at no time did it ever end up escalating beyond that. Not saying it won't in your situation, but that's my experience. Take it as you will.
Are you a betting woman? If you get to see his junk, you post in the swimsuit thread again. If his junk is small, you post in the bootay thread. If his cock is magnificent with a smooth, hairless shaft then Rush has to post in the TIBer thread with clothespins on his nipples. As far as inappropriate work lusting type things go, one of my employees was a 49 year old gal from Uruguay. She had a few kids, but was still built like a ship (she's good to go). The confidence and raw sex appeal she exuded was unreal. Every time she had a shift I wanted to throw her on a pile of educational toys. Plus she had a pair of jeans split up the back that gave me a glimpse of some serious ass meat. She knew what she was doing. She knew. No, I did not comment on her fine taste in thongs.
In my work experience, bullies don't get what's coming to them unless they cross a sexual harassment line or they fail so greatly at their job their firing is unavoidable. At my job at the moment we have quite a few women who are just downright miserable to everyone they encounter. They are bottom of the food chain people and could be easily replaced but our company is so risk adverse with firing people, the problem just continues to fester. The only way we've been able to get some of the people fired was by documenting EVERYTHING. Every time we talked to them about their behavior, we would fill out the companies coaching form. There was one person who had a stack almost an inch high of coaching documents and it took that long to get rid of them. As others have said, don't try to force the hand of management to get rid of the person. You will end up on the wrong end of the stick. Just present information you've collected and let them decide what they'd like to do.
And this whole discussion is exactly why you shouldn't get involved. Way too many people, so many different opinions, very little if anyway this can benefit you, and a good chance it can come back to bite you. Getting involved in these sort of things almost never work out the way you want them to and almost always come back to hurt you.
This times two. I've had a couple of issues in the workplace where someone was bullied, and as Psychodyne said it's best to confront the person in a professional manner. One time it stopped, the other time it escalated. I regret neither. I hate to call out some of you, but if more people acted like men instead of hiding maybe this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
So you'll step up and send him checks to help support him and his family if he gets fired for nebulous reasons (of course relating back to his 'troublemaking' tendencies - but that won't actually be the 'reason' given)? That would be manning up. Quick question: have you worked in an office/corporate/professional environment? I have for many years. From my experience, as well as the experience of others including my wife, these things do not usually end well. Sometimes they do, but often times your best outcome is nothing happens at all. And if the probability is your BEST case scenario is nothing happens (to you or the bully) - is it worth the risk? Sure, being 'right' is great. You know what's better? Eating, and having a place to live. That really kicks ass too.
Considering that I've been working in financial accounting for 10+ years now, yes I've worked in an office environment. Tell yourself whatever you have to in order to sleep at night safe in the knowledge that today's society in many ways rewards you for being a pussy.
<a class="postlink" href="http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ark-man-shot-dead-after-getting-lost-chicago" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ark-man- ... st-chicago</a> Man this makes me want to move to Chicago, ask for directions and get shot in return.
I testified in a hearing against a former boss due to his complete disregard for anything remotely approaching decent behavior. One other guy helped out. He no longer works in the field. I have not been able to find a job in my former field since. That was three years ago. No one will touch me. So don't tell me about 'doing the right thing.' I did it. I lost a career that took 7 years of post high school education, but I still get to pay back the loans. So doing the right thing sounds really great and nice, right up until you lose it all and nothing happens to the person who was wrong (the hearing officer believed me and found my way). Again, winning the battle doesn't mean winning the war. Sometimes it's just the opposite. Edit: Cleaned up some really unnecessary stuff.
Or what? Sounds to me that I could tell you whatever the fuck I wanted, and you'd just put your head down and wait for me to go away. I made the comment about more men actually acting like men because I guarantee you that if this guy had been screaming histrionics at this lady and two or three guys would've immediately stepped between them and informed him that that behavior wasn't cool, it would likely stop. Or he'd yell and scream but now to a group of people and hang himself. I'm sorry if I'm not the kind of guy that can see a woman being verbally berated until she cries and would just stay out of it. Actually I know I wouldn't because as I mentioned it's happened before. I'm sorry about what happened to you but it sounds like something MUCH bigger than what Ghetto described. This isn't a case of sticking it to the man, Erin Brokovich style. It's an employee abusing temporary power.
Pannepot from Struisse Brewery in Belgium. Ghetto, grease yourself up, get ready. $6.50 a bottle. It is kind of worth it. The one I had years ago tasted like beer and jagermeister. Except, you know, not anywhere as gross. This is the first bottle I've seen since 2009ish. Now it tastes like cinnamon, prunes, chocolate. And, yeah, it's pretty much a world class beer. Fun fact: Westvleteren Brewery (most sought after beer in the world), St. Bernadus Brewery (highly rated), and Struisse are all on the same 15 mile swath of road. Best. Pub Crawl. Ever. This is on my bucket list right under having nasty septuagenarian sex with the Collins sisters. To top off this perfect evening here is a girl taking an entire arm up their asshole. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! That can't be healthy. NSFW
Just found out my wife is pregnant (hopefully from me). This is going in the drunk thread because tonight I'm having an MGD or six in her late grandfather's honor. I CANNOT stand this stuff, but he passed away a few years from a freak accident (fell off a cliff) and MGD was the only thing he drank (probably had to do with why he fell off the cliff). Chugged one before the wife did the stick squat, and it turned up good results. Takeaway: yay MGD!!!
While I am a champion of cheap beer, MGD is one I haven't yet sampled, in fact I didn't even know it was still made. That'll be going on my list, is it better or worse than the Champagne of Beers?
I want to drink that Pannepot. That looks YUMMY. Geez. Beer tastes way too good and makes you way too fat. Ugh. Well. Beer makes ME fat. I don't know what it does to y'all. State Fair report: The overpowering scent of fried sugar, sweat, and motorized scooter killed my senses today. It was just too much. I think I got the diabeetus just walking around, with all the fried sugar concoctions going on. I can't eat that stuff...last time I did I tried a fried oreo and it gave me ferocious heartburn. No thanks.
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, His name is my name too. Whenever we go out, The people always shout, "John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt!" Da da da da da da da da!